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Khachir7

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Maybe at this time make sense to join for the class action...that someone made a post at suggested already


A lot of people like the idea of a class action lawsuit -- but to have one, you need someone to sue, that has enough money to get you money. Bullion Direct is in bankruptcy, so likely cannot be sued.




I am speculating that with all those paychecks at our expense, CM must have a valuable real estate property (or a couple) and retirement accounts. His wife must have jewelry. (Any other people active in his company (board?) will have assets too.) Otherwise, we will assume that he hid the $ - can he be forced to provide evidence how he spent it, if sued? Can't we sue all of the above people?
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I am speculating that with all those paychecks at our expense, CM must have a valuable real estate property (or a couple) and retirement accounts. His wife must have jewelry. (Any other people active in his company (board?) will have assets too.) Otherwise, we will assume that he hid the $ - can he be forced to provide evidence how he spent it, if sued? Can't we sue all of the above people?


I'm guessing that the government investigations will take care of looking into what assets there are, where money went, etc.

With Tulving, there was a class action lawsuit against both The Tulving Company (stayed due to bankruptcy) and Hannes Tulving personally. The lawsuit against him was put on hold (if I understand correctly, by the choice of the attorney who initiated the class action lawsuit) because of the criminal investigation against him.

I'm not saying that suing him would not be worthwhile, and people can certainly pursue that if they wish to (and have the resources to do so).


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From JG's court document list, it appears two parties have requested appearance by phone at the hearing today at 1:30 central.

Judge's Notice of Party Permitted to Appear Telephonically (Related Document(s): Request for Telephonic Appearance (Reason: Conflict obligation in Dallas, Phone: 214-885-6867) (Date and Time of Hearing: 08/03/2015 1:30 PM) filed by Jeffrey R. Erler for Creditors Diamond State Depository, LLC, Dillon Gage Inc. of Dallas. (Erler, Jeffrey)...CONFERENCE DIAL-IN-NUMBER: 1-857-232-0155; CONFERENCE ROOM NUMBER: 511285... (Lopez, Jennifer)

Judge's Notice of Party Permitted to Appear Telephonically (Related Document(s): Request for Telephonic Appearance (Reason: Counsel is scheduled to be out of state, Phone: 512-879-8472) (Date and Time of Hearing: 08/03/2015 1:30 pm) filed by Peter C. Ruggero for Creditor Kazu Suzuki. (Ruggero, Peter) ...CONFERENCE DIAL-IN-NUMBER: 1-857-232-0155; CONFERENCE ROOM NUMBER: 511285... (Lopez, Jennifer)

Makes me wonder if it is 'ok' to simply dial in to listen on the conference number or is a court request required? I suppose these are public hearings. Regardless, I wouldn't be able to make it but would very much be interested in the proceeding.

Are any of these parties monitoring this forum? Is anyone else on this forum attending?
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Makes me wonder if it is 'ok' to simply dial in to listen on the conference number or is a court request required? I suppose these are public hearings. Regardless, I wouldn't be able to make it but would very much be interested in the proceeding.

Are any of these parties monitoring this forum? Is anyone else on this forum attending?


The court has a bit of information at http://www.txwb.uscourts.gov/node/417 . I think it is fair to say that if there are no notices ahead of time about who can listen, and when you call it does not say anything, then anyone could listen in. Remember the phone # and code are generic and are used for all cases to get you connected to the courtroom (so it is not like a password).

This could be very quick, or take a long time -- I have no idea. In the Tulving case, I am not aware of anyone (other than attorneys) that attended or listened to the hearings.

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spainte

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Did anyone attend, physically or by phone, the proceedings today?
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taratot

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Did anyone attend, physically or by phone, the proceedings today?


Filing has been extended to August 12th:

http://about.ag/BullionDirect.htm


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Filing has been extended to August 12th:

http://about.ag/BullionDirect.htm




There was still a hearing.
Judge Tony Davis Calendar 8/3

I would expect the emergency filings were addressed, at a minimum. The ones where they approve the sharks and request to cash (steal) all of the checks they are holding.
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Did anyone attend, physically or by phone, the proceedings today?


I hope to have a summary of the key points of the hearing at http://about.ag/BullionDirect.htm later this morning.

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